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Posted May 24, 19 1:53 by Richard Frajola (frajola)

S. Allan Taylor

I just reviewed my (very large) PDF file of George Sloane notes regarding S.A. Taylor. His main period of activity was prior to 1876 (in Melbville's October 21, 1935 article in Mekeel's) which make it doubtful that he was the maker, or seller, of Samoa Express stamps first issued in 1877.

I see reference to his printing menthods as wood engraving and typographed from cliches arranged in formes, no mention of lithography.

Posted May 24, 19 0:25 by Farley Katz (navalon)

Taylor forgeries

The vast majority of philatelic forgeries in the nineteenth century were made by lithography. Years ago in connection with studying a line engraved stamp, I went through Earee's Album Weeds [1882] and counted the hundreds of forgeries. One (!) was line engraved, a handful some other type of engraving (presumably typographic; I dont recall), and all the others were lithographed. Earee wrote "of course I need not tell my readers that it would not pay the forgers to go to the expense of engraving their wares on steel or copper..." Id. p. 32.

Taylor's last ad from Tyler's Philatelic Forgers, p. 132, makes clear that he had no fear of stamps that "have holes round the edges."

I have no idea whether the Samoa Express stamps were made by him, however.

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Posted May 23, 19 23:26 by Brian Buru (brianb)

Samoa Express and Taylor

Thanks for your input Leonard. What is the "character" of Taylor's work? The Samoa Express originals were lithographed. Would this motivate him to follow suit?

Posted May 23, 19 22:37 by Bill Longley (longley)

Dynamic ASCC (with print on demand book)

The Postal History Society of Canada's online postmark database is 10 years old and is used extensively, daily.  It is one of the reasons our membership has increased substantially. Not decreased !!!

Your online database could represent over 100,000 potential hits to millions of people doing internet searches every day (steamboat, New York, Chicago, Detroit, Los Angeles, gold rush, New Mexico, whatever). It is a remarkable way to draw in historians, genealogists, and collectors from other fields.

Books are good, online databases will grow your membership.
Either way, I'll buy both.

Posted May 23, 19 19:34 by Leonard Hartmann (hartmann)

Updates

The idea of printing a link in the book, etc.,  that will go to updates is quite realistic, the full book should not appear and especially with the updates in place if should be limited to markings, dates, etc. and NOT prices also it would be easy to update, i can sake a simple change on my website in a minute and at no cost

now a bothering problem, how many people actually use the web material, i FREQUENTLY get requests for books that can be easily found on our web site by searching with your browser or in many cases to Google, or the like requesting

many people useing the web seem to have tunnel vision and only want a specific bit of information and do not get a realistic picture

yes, i much prefer the printed book

Leonard

Posted May 23, 19 17:34 by Andrew Kupersmit (andy kupersmit)

Both Dynamic and Static

Why not just publish a book and inside the book, publish a link that the owner of the book can visit to see updates? If the link were active from day one, everyone would just open the book and record the website and visit and there would be minimal book sales. Therefore, there must be a lag of two years during which time the link doesn't work. In other words, publish a book and release it on, for example, June 1, 2020. Inside the book publish a link where the reader can go for updates after June 1, 2022.

Posted May 23, 19 16:03 by Russ Ryle (hoosierboy)

re: Dynamic future for our hobby

Greetings all,

"Information shared is history saved." That being said, we are today blessed with the technical capability to create and manage dynamic data bases constantly updating information found in static printed catalogues.

Catalogues require knowledgeable "editors". Dynamic data bases require knowledgeable "administrators". Currently I help administrate three dynamic data bases hosted under the features section on Stamp Smarter.

Personally I do this not because I know everything about these subjects; but, because I want to learn more about them myself while sharing what I know with others in current and future generations.

The dictionary defines a hobby as an activity separate from work one undertakes for the pleasure of doing it. This perfectly fits my motivations for being in this hobby over half a century both collecting and contributing to on line data bases and exhibits.

I sincerely respect those in our hobby with different motivations especially those who have and do communicate their knowledge in various forms of the printed word. However, the future of our hobby is a dynamic future.

Posted May 23, 19 15:36 by Richard Drews (bear427)

Dynamic

Gordon,

The USPCS is setting a great standard. The website makes it possible for members to help update all census data. That is the ideal of being interactive. Perhaps the talented people behind your website can provide Chip with access to the software and templates used by the USPCS.

I used the term "backing up" too loosely. I was not considering it as a back up service for data storage. I meant to state that a website enhances the value of a book or periodical by providing a place to find more current information. Sorry for creating the confusion.

Rich

Posted May 23, 19 15:26 by Gordon Eubanks (gordon)

Dynamic

Rich, it is more than just backing up. What really matters is the ability to search. The Chronicle search makes it fundamentally easier to find information. The next step for a Chronicle like online depository would be to allow comments associated with each article. This requires near real-time monitoring but allows new information to be linked to articles.

What is different with something like the 1847 census is that it is continually being improved with new information. This lends itself to database architecture. The next step here would be to have an expanded group of people updating which is much harder to manage.

-gordon

Posted May 23, 19 15:23 by Richard Frajola (frajola)

New Presentation Added

I just uploaded a PDF file presentation, How They Carried the Mail in America, 1850 to 1870, contributed by Dr. George Tyson. It is listed under exhibits tab and a direct link is here.

Thank you George!

(I highly recommend this presentation to all interersted in mail transport)

Posted May 23, 19 15:16 by Richard Drews (bear427)

Dynamic ASCC

Scott has made an excellent case for a dynamic catalog. In writing about philatelic literature I have consistently pointed out the need to evaluate all digital entries on the basis of their unique advantages over printed works. Books are static. So are periodicals. They can both be improved by a website that backs them up. A quarterly periodical can be made much more timely and useful to the membership when regular updates are posted on the society website. The same is true of books when census work can be continued on a website. The latest CANEJ judging manual is based on these principles. Digital entries are to be evaluated based on static, dynamic and interactive capabilities. The manual can be downloaded through the second link on this page:

https://stamps.org/Events/Judging-Information

Rich

Posted May 23, 19 12:07 by Leonard Hartmann (hartmann)

Samoa Express

Brian, these stamps are totally out of character for S. A. Taylor

 i know of none by or from him that are lithographed, perforated or
of actual issued postage stamps; on the last point this could be
debated on the Samoa Express

there could always be exceptions

Leonard

Posted May 23, 19 8:05 by Brian Buru (brianb)

Dynamic ASCC

Scott,

Yes, most of the major catalogue publishers are going digital. Well, partly at least. Stanley Gibbons, for example, have just introduced an option to buy PDF copies of their catalogues in addition to the paper versions. However, since the PDF is only about 30% cheaper, I know which I will buy.

As far as an all-digital, or dynamic, ASCC is concerned, there are three major downsides that I can foresee: the need for continual hosting; future maintenance/updating (design by committee never works); and income generation. Will access to it require an up-front membership fee, or will it adopt a subscription style model instead? Will it be free? What about copyright and piracy issues? Difficult questions!

Posted May 23, 19 3:28 by Scott Trepel (strepel)

My point about ASCC

I should have stated my point more clearly.

For me, it's not a matter of digital book vs printed book on paper.

My point is that we would all benefit much more from a dynamic database of markings with search and sort features, modifiable earliest/latest dates, listings that can be expanded for new discoveries (now known in red, for example) or contracted for corrections (year date misread as 1847, should be 1849), and real pricing data.

I look at printed catalogs -- a better term would be static catalogs -- as often as I look at the Yellow Pages.

No one loves a printed book more than I do, but if we are going to make information more accessible and more useful, digital is the best way.

Remember the two monks who walked down the road in 1500? "Did you hear some guy in Germany is printing bibles with movable type on a printing press?" To which the other monk answered, "Movable type? Hah! It'll never replace our bibles."

Posted May 23, 19 3:19 by Scott Trepel (strepel)

Depew

Greg,

Congrats on getting the tete-beche strip. I have never handled another, as far as I recall.

-S

Posted May 23, 19 2:53 by Brian Buru (brianb)

Samuel Allan Taylor Forgeries

Do we have an expert amongst the membership who can confidently confirm or deny that the illustrated stamps are the work of S. A. Taylor? These two forgeries are rare, since only about a dozen or so are known. The stamps are lithographed on soft white paper and perforated about 11.5.

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Posted May 23, 19 2:43 by Gregory Shoults (coilcollector)

James Depew Sale

The sale today saw some incredible prices for wonderfully centered material in the 20th century. Jim collected the best of the best. My interest were two of the ugly, off centered production pieces. They were not up to par for the best centered, but in their case the items were very, very difficult production pieces. The off center 1 cent pair of the 410 coil came from the COIL STAMPS plates. For the plate number to show on the side it had to be miscut quite a bit. There are 2 examples reported. The other piece, a splice repair of the 1 cent vertical rotary press coil is a real unusual item. You can see from the pictures.

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Posted May 23, 19 1:28 by Ken Lawrence (kenlawrence)

Dealer/expert signatures

This is from the Vin Fiz lot in last year's Siegel Rarities sale. I would appreciate help identifying the signatures. Heiman's was there originally. I think the corner one is Bolaffi, but I don't know which Bolaffi. The others I can't read.

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Posted May 22, 19 23:29 by Kevin Lowther (lowther)

Alan Berkun

I am doing some research on covers which once belonged to Alan Berkun and would like to contact him. Does anyone have a current address/email etc? Kevin Lowther

Posted May 22, 19 21:17 by Chip Gliedman (cgliedman)

ASCC at Stockholmia

Hi again.

Sorry, Richard, for having the ASCC fill the board for the past couple of days, but I appreciate your letting the conversation go on. I was hoping to have a "listening session," and I'm getting some of it here.

Well, a few people have RSVP'd to meet at Stockholmia. It appears that Thursday morning is relatively free of U.S.-oriented sessions, so let me put a stake in the ground and say that I'll be outside of the "Stockholmia Club" on the 5th level at 10:30 AM local time. Would love to hear what you might have to say about what must/should be included, what dates it should span, what would make it most usable to you, and anything else ASCC-related.

If you can't make that session, please find me at the show and we can grab a coffee or meatball or herring or whatever.

I don't want to prejudice any discussions by putting out anything in advance - it's a listening session and NOTHING has been finalized yet.

Thanks. Chip

Posted May 22, 19 17:35 by Richard Drews (bear427)

libraries and books

Terrence,

Shiny discs? Most laptops and tablets don't even have the ability to read discs. It's all downloads today. I love my books and read 350-400 every year, but it's hard to travel with them. I have Adobe digital editions on all my devices and have 250-300 books with me when I travel and access to 59,000 if I have a connection. Project Gutenberg is great.

The whole marketplace has been upended. I'm 73 and still love the feel of a book in my hands. I was trying to downsize my reading library pror to a move and quickly found out that only a few key items would draw even modest offers. I wound up donating over 2000 books to a local charity. After giving several cartons to the CCC and the APRL, I donated 120 cartons of philatelic books, periodicals and auction catalogs in long, nearly complete runs to the Northern Philatelic Library. But I do carry 100-900 GBs of phlatelic literature on my various devices.

When paperbacks are sold by libraries for 25 cents and hardbacks for 50 cents, it's hard for bookstores to survive. Ironically, there has been an upsurge in sales of coloring books for seniors. I'd say that the handwriting is on the wall, but they don't teach cursive in most schools.

Rich

Posted May 22, 19 16:41 by Terence Hines (thines)

Hanover & Kindle.

Ron,

  Two reasons. First, I don't think Lulu offers that option. Second, if they had I wouldn't have allowed it. Illustrations do not do well on kindle. Nor do indexes. My book has many color illustrations and an index.

Posted May 22, 19 16:36 by Roland Cipolla (roncipolla)

Hanover NH Book

Terance,

I have and enjoy your book because it on a subject I have studied for 50+ years.

But, I just went to Amazon and looked ..... is there a reason that there is not a Kindle version available?

Posted May 22, 19 16:20 by Roland Cipolla (roncipolla)

600 Page B/W Printed $25 - Electronic Less - We can Have Both

Please consider the info below as I believe it will dramatically alter the Print vs. Electronic discussion that is starting.

Let me throw out some real-world examples here based on the Amazon publishing engine/program.  Keep in mind that many "for big profit" publishing/printing on demand companies charge between $1,600 to $8,000+ upfront costs just to get ready to print, electronic or paper.

Amazon - Up to 8.5" x 11" - No Minimum Print Quantity - Upfront costs are less than $200.

**   A 600-page b/w book with a color cover can be printed (on demand) and delivered for less than $25.00.  If the interior is color that cost jumps to over $70.00.

**   A 100-page section/subsection, b/w pages with color cover would cost less than $9.00.

**  The Kindle version of the book is a biproduct of the print - Can be sold for $20 or less.  BTW, Kindle can be read on an Apple device, Windows and/or Android.

**  Updates and "revisions" will become moot if that is the direction chosen.  The book is basically "dynamic" ..... only the print version will become dated - but then a "new copy" can be created on demand for under $20.00!  Semiannual updates could very much be a reality.

---> In either case, the electronic version can be sold for less and, BTW, either alternative, there is some money left over for the USPCS.

I hope it is clearly obvious that we can have the best of both worlds with very low financial impact or risk.  NO garages or office space full of unsold books which means no financial losses!  No inventory, no shipping, no stress either.

The world has changed and publishing a traditional print book, especially specialized like our books are, is just too risky and resource intensive.

Posted May 22, 19 15:52 by Terence Hines (thines)

Books.

My book "A History of Postal Service in Hanover New Hampshire" was printed by Lulu. It's illustrations are full color, the paper is high quality glossy and, in paperback, sells for $52. I had no start-up costs.

Posted May 22, 19 15:10 by Richard Frajola (frajola)

Frajola Website Updates / Additions

Finally catching up on some nice materials supplied. I apologize for the delays in processing.

New links in the exhibits section: I have added a single frame exhbvit on 1853 US Postal Stationery contributed by Ken Lawrence as well as six AR exhibit files from David Handelman.

New links in the resources section: 1859 U.S. Postal Laws and Regulation (PL&R) supplied by Stefan Jaronski as well as U.S. Mail contracts 1801-104, 1805, and 1809 to 1816 contributed by James Baird.

Thank you all!

Posted May 22, 19 15:10 by Terence Hines (thines)

Libraries and books.

Richard - The situation you describe is an abomination and a clear dereliction of duty on the part of the librarians involved. We were sold the same bill fo good back when microfilm was going to replace books, magazine and newspapers. Read Baker's "Double Fold" to learn how that led to utter disaster. I'm the chair of the library committee at my university. While we have removed some books, responsible faculty will have to be alert for this kind of wanton destruction of knowledge. To make this more philatelic, I would be unlikely to buy a publication available only on a shiny little disc. I want to be able to sit down and read a book when and where ever I want to. I do NOT want to have to carry around a computer or some tiny screen.

Posted May 22, 19 14:44 by Richard Drews (bear427)

to print or not to print

Mike,

It is not an either or choice, but digital is gaining ground quickly. The storage medium will be changing with increasing speed. The format seems to have settled on searchable PDFs. Printing and mailing costs have risen to the point where many clubs can only afford to distribute journals in a digital format. At Caltech the 8 story library that was built when I was an undergrad was emptying out when I attended my 45th reunion. It held no books at my 50th. The bookstore has become a souvenir shop. Rare books are maintained in separate divisional libraries/museums.

I spoke extensively with the head librarian. Her take was that all colleges were converting to digital operations and once it was determined at least 3 copies of a book were in one of the major regional depositories, that book should be scanned to a searchable PDF and deaccessioned. No one is even checking the quality of the PDFs. If someone eventually finds some bad pages a scan can be requested from a repository. It is far more cost effective. The only critical aspect of digital storage seems to be migration of digtial content to imroved storage media every 10-20 years. The speed with which this can be done is improving every year and costs are negligible compared to storing books.

At the CCC we are completely revisting our publishing program. We are looking for lower print costs when we choose to print short runs. Everything we publish will, at some point, be released digitally. Also, we plan to update books and release them in a digital only format. Once a major work is published it is often 30-50 years before a new editon is published. Keeping the original files will allow us to gather new information and extend the useful life of an important research work.

Rich

Posted May 22, 19 11:16 by Michael Gutman (mikeg94)

ASCC -- To print or not to print

Many stamp (and other) societies are now grappling with this question. Do we print (hard copy) our journals and books or offer them in digital form only. I believe that both should continue to be offered and offer the following explanation for this proposition.

I spent my career as an electrical engineer and saw many forms of digital storage come and go. The list is quite long and includes paper tape, magnetic tape, magnetic drums, magnetic disks, magnetic removable disks, eight track magnetic tape, magnetic cassettes, magnetic floppy disks, CD’s, DVD’s and (removable) electronic memory (thumb drives).

During the life of each they were each thought to be “permanent” memory but sad experience showed that this was not in fact the case. Paper tape could easily be torn and might become brittle or disintegrated over time. All the magnetic forms of storage suffered from the same malady, over time they could become unreadable due to deterioration of the magnetic media or become demagnetized from exposure to magnetic fields. CD’s and DVD’s are the current rage but older CD’s have begun to exhibit rusting and only time will tell how many will be readable in years to. Thumb drives are subject to physical mishandling as we have probably all experienced at one time or another.

So what constitutes “permanent” memory? I can think of only two that have stood the test of time. The first is the printed/written word that has survived for thousands of years. The second is perhaps less obvious and is the phonograph record that has survived for about one hundred years (if not dropped).

Posted May 22, 19 10:38 by Russ Ryle (hoosierboy)

re: ASCC update project

Chip,

Has the format and availability of the final end product(s) of your work been determined yet? That will be the deciding factor in image specifications.

Russ

Posted May 22, 19 2:59 by Chip Gliedman (cgliedman)

ASCC - Thank You

Thank you all for the comments and suggestions. Obviously, I can't pull a project like this off without a lot of help and it would be silly to undertake it without a thorough understanding what would make it most usable for the "consumers" of the catalog.

Please feel free to drop me a note anytime if you have any thoughts or comments or want to talk if you don't want to make any thoughts in a public forum.

Thanks again

Chip Gliedman

Posted May 22, 19 0:50 by Brian Buru (brianb)

Scans and Printing

Scans destined for 1:1 printing will never need a resolution higher than 300 dpi. Those destined to be enlarged, on the other hand, definitely will.....up to 2400 dpi or even higher for fine detail. The trick is to multiply the intended final printed image size by 300 to ensure that there are enough pixels. Otherwise, the print will appear pixelated, or jagged. For example, a 6 inch wide print will need 1800 pixels, as a minimum. Of course there is nothing wrong with more pixels, except that it will result in unnecessarily large file sizes. Remember a 600 dpi scan will be four times larger than a 300 dpi one.

Posted May 22, 19 0:21 by Leonard Hartmann (hartmann)

printed versus electronic

No, most of the cost is in the compositon of the material for presentation and that is about the same as for digital and not in the printing cost, today color is about the same as B&W, paper for good color cost more

Granted the printed verson entails distributon and storage costs but also greater acceptance from all directions

Leonard

Posted May 22, 19 0:19 by William Duffney (bill duffney)

ASCC

I was under the impression that the minimal dpi image standard for submissions was established years ago.

If made available only online, a collector could print whatever they want for themselves at home. Full printed versions are absolutely unnecessary and much too costly. (Is there some sort of endowment involved in printing it?)

Posted May 21, 19 23:55 by David Handelman (davidh)

ASCC

A couple of different reasons for having this available electronically (not printed):

1 Much of the cost of the book is in the printing* and binding, especially if it's in colour (in other words, the printed book will be a lot more expensive)

2 It's easily searchable; no matter how good the index of a printed book is (and for most philatelic books, the index is terrible, or non-existent), it cannot match an electronic version for searchability

3 It's easily portable (can be saved to your laptop, along with all the other essential documents), and doesn't weigh much (or anything, if you already carry your laptop around).

And most importantly,

4 It won't get lost, the way most of my books do, when I want them; also, pages won't fall out, tear, get stained, get creased, get lost, ...

The only drawback I can see is that if the images are 300 dpi (I prefer 400 dpi), then the file will be enormous (even after distilling and saving as a high quality pdf); this can be remedied by using a DVD or drop box to send it out

*Not printing is often cited as saving trees; but very high quality books are printed on rag paper, so no trees are destroyed anyway.

Posted May 21, 19 23:38 by Scott Trepel (strepel)

ASCC

Use this opportunity to create a really useful dynamic online listing with images, market data and user updates.

If it’s a printed book, I will not buy it or use it.

Posted May 21, 19 19:26 by George Tyson (gtyson)

ASCC

With regard to the values that are used in the new ASCC: the one thing that I would NOT do is make all the values in a particular category the same (e.g. using the same dollar value for all of the manuscript markings from a particular state). One fairly recent revision of an important catalog (which shall go nameless here) chose to use uniform values for almost all of the covers in certain categories which I thought detracted from the credibility of the catalog. Personally, I think the issue of how to determine values in a standardized and credible way is worthy of some "public" discussion, particularly since the development of the listings will be divided among many different people.

I think that most people are interested in having some indication of the rarity of a marking and perhaps also its desirability, at least in the current market. (The latter is important because not all markings that are of comparable rarity bring the same price in the marketplace.) Listing a dollar value is one way of trying to capture both factors but there are probably other ways, too.

Posted May 21, 19 19:26 by John Barwis (jbarwis)

ASCC

It's a Stampless cover catalog, so why include anything at 600 dpi?

Posted May 21, 19 19:05 by Ray Porter (rporter314)

DPI

My 2 cents regarding scans for personal use.

I use 300 dpi for covers. They show more than enough detail for postal history analysis. More dpi just seems to make the pic larger without benefit.

I use 1200 dpi on stamps. I found using higher dpi doesn't add any detail which would change analysis and in fact disguises detail as a series of very small blobs of ink. 1200 allows me to enlarge to search for small details. It also allows size manipulation on a page, without loss of detail. Less than 1200 dpi seems to erase some detail when enlarged.

Posted May 21, 19 17:40 by Leonard Hartmann (hartmann)

600 dpi for a stamp

Bernard

i am saying 600 dpi to scan for a stamp, i am not saying to print
as in a book, the images must be converted for the press, cmyk, etc.

on the last CCC book, i am well pleased with the images, however it was
not easy, 1,600 images and on each we had to go over a detailed image
description, some we could not improve on, the printer wanted higher quality

Leonard

Posted May 21, 19 17:29 by Bernard Biales (bernard b)

600 dpi? For a stamp?

The stamps, which compose the main part of the catalog, are probably well rendered at 300 dpi.  They do not involve fine intaglio.

Posted May 21, 19 17:24 by Lawrence Gregg (ecovers)

Stamp designs on paper currency

Question to the board: I'm trying to find which US paper currency use the same designs as US stamps.

Cannot find a list online so I'm wondering if maybe somebody knows and can list them here.

Posted May 21, 19 17:17 by William Duffney (bill duffney)

ASCC

Use what Van has accomplished thus far. Make a universal master form/file with specific standards to distribute. Divide the job up into a few subcommittees to cover individual sections of the whole country, or it won’t be finished in my lifetime.

Posted May 21, 19 17:12 by Leonard Hartmann (hartmann)

ASCC Markings in Color

Yes, to show a specific cover in color is wonderful

As to the markings most stampless ones were used over a number of
years and markings are thus generic, and only specific as to color, conditon,
strike quality, etc. to the cover it was taken from

for my material i believed actual markings and not drawings were preferred,
in many cases  i have tried to minimize the paper color and to maximize
the marking color to the extent of my limited ability and time allocated

Leonard

Posted May 21, 19 16:26 by Roland Cipolla (roncipolla)

Great 2ct W/F and Einstein Philatelic Piece

In a Sothebys sale coming up is a postcard written and posted by Albert Einstein on the actual day he arrived in New York from Europe.  It is a December 1930 postcard with a 2ct W/F sent to Berlin.

What a great potential exhibit item to show the 2ct postcard rate to Germany with postage due. 

A classic example of my old addage for exhibiting:  "Use the rare to show the common."

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Posted May 21, 19 15:56 by Ken Lawrence (kenlawrence)

ASCC

Not being technologically inclined I am not qualified to opine on many of the choices, but I would definitely like to see the markings in color. If more than one, each recorded color. Cover images would sometimes help, but the individual markings ought to be primary, grouped with related rate marks and endorsements linked intutively. Sometimes for expertizing purposes markings that do not belong together are significant factor, such as the New Orleans WAY marks on many of Ray Gregor's fakes.

Posted May 21, 19 14:54 by Chip Gliedman (cgliedman)

ASCC

Update on my previous note:

I've received a number of responses to my prior note about a listening session in Stockholm. Among them were two that offered condolences and one that offered to send a dominatrix to my house, as I apparently have a desire for pain. Thank you all for the well wishes.

It looks as though a few folks will be in Stockholm and when I find a time and place that seems to work within the schedules, I'll let people know. This will be the first of what I hope will be a number of such times to bounce ideas around.

Still would like to hear from anyone interested in the project with any ideas about how and what it should include or look like. Feel free to contact me through the board.

Chip

Also, regarding images, here's some of the things still on the table:
- Cover images could be included online, but would it make more sense to have just tracings in a printed version (similar to how they currently are)? This would make more sense from a "save the trees" point of view, but would require more image processing to isolate and generate the "tracings."
- Should rate and auxiliary markings be isolated so they could be called up as desired (e.g. all "advertised" markings)? Or should they just be "tagged" so that full cover images can be called up when a search for them is made?
- Again with the online vs. print - would we want tracings of them for a print version? (and "print" could be a .pdf file generated from a database report that could be stored on a computer), and again, should they be color? or B/W, which might be easier to read?

Many, many questions. Want many, many opinions. C. -

Posted May 21, 19 13:48 by Leonard Hartmann (hartmann)

images for publication

I suggest 300 dpi for most items, however for a single stamp go 600 dpi
also scan at full size

do not scan at over 600 unless you are interested in only a small portion of the object and plan to enlarge the image considerably

for publication a cover scanned at 300 dpi but has been shrunk to say 1 inch
are not usable, ok usable but a horrible image

yes, i much prefer jpg over tif, etc.

Leonard

Posted May 21, 19 12:19 by Russ Ryle (hoosierboy)

re: image standardization for the ASCC

Morning Chip,

The first step would be to establish your "standard file format and density" for your massive accumulation of images. Once that is accomplished, there are several pieces of software available to convert may file formats into your standard. My suggestion would be to use a relative low density .jpg file as your standard based on many years of dealing with cover images. 200 to 300 dpi provides a good end product on screen and for printing.

Worst case scenario would be you print out an image file and rescan it into your standard. This second generation file approach might limit the fine details you can enlarge your screen image up to but should be acceptable in most cases for the purpose at hand.

Image naming is a more thorny issue. Your needed elements include state, post office, year of the cover, and postmark(s) thereon. For my REGISTERED USA data base files I use YYYY,MO,DA,City,ST with some other extensions for postmark type.

I would chat with Don Denman the main data base guru for Stamp Smarter for council on how best to make all of this wonderful data available on line.

Also, private message me with your contact info if you would like to chat further.

Best regards, Russ

Posted May 20, 19 23:01 by Chip Gliedman (cgliedman)

NAPEX

Yes, Ken, it would.

Unfortunately, I will not be able to attend NAPEX this year, but would love the input.

Chip

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