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Posted Mar 27, 17 9:52 by Glenn Estus (gestus)

Stamp Insider --for March/April 2017

On a personal note: I need to thank Al Starkweather, the editor, for taking my article on machine slogan cancels and really spicing it up with illustrations showing how the US tried to raise money for the WWI war effort. I just read an article in Smithsonian Magazine last night about the Liberty Bell's use in the money raising campaigns.

Al always amazes me how he finds illustration to augment what his writers submit. BTW, I'm always interested in obtaining new slogan examples.

Glenn Estus

Posted Mar 27, 17 7:45 by Roger Rhoads (roger rhoads)

Garfield-Perry March Party

And a GREAT time was had by all. Jim Allen won the Grand prize for his "The First United States 12¢ Stamp Series of 1851-1861" while Jerry Miller won Reserve for "The Evolution of the Post Offices in German New Guinea 1888-1914". Greg Schoults won the single-frame Grand for "Washington & Franklin Rotary Press Coil Waste 1919-1922". The palmares are posted on

Posted Mar 26, 17 23:35 by Steve Walske (steve w)

Havana Cover

Just to add to the discussion, here's a nondescript but interesting cover that transited both Havana and England.

Datelined New Orleans 15 February 1862 (CSA period), it was sent under cover on the blockade runner "Florida" which left NO on Feb 19 and arrived in Havana on Feb 23. A forwarding agent in Havana transferred it to the Spofford & Tileston steamship "Columbia" that left on Feb 26 and arrived in NY on March 3. It entered the mails at NY as an unpaid letter to France, and was carried to Liverpool by Cunard's "Niagara" which left Boston on March 5 and arrived on March 18. It finally reached Marseille on March 21.

Given the circumstances, a month's transit is remarkable.


Posted Mar 26, 17 20:16 by Andrew Reid (andrewukusa1847)

Havana Thanks!


Thank you for that detailed summary. Very helpful. The inability to prepay mail to its destination makes for some very interesting covers.


Posted Mar 26, 17 19:05 by Yamil Kouri (yamil kouri)

U.K to Cuba by steamer - two routes

There were two steamship line options to send mail from the U.K to Cuba in the mid-19th century.

By the Royal Mail Steam Packet Co. (RMSP), a.k.a. "West India Line," or via the U.S.A., initially by British steamers (Cunard), and subsequently also by American steamers - for the transatlantic leg - and then by American vessels between the U.S.A. and Cuba.

The RMSP line was more "direct" (their ships first stopped in Bermuda and later in St. Thomas) and faster, but there were only monthly sailings and the initial rate was more expensive, 2/3 per half ounce. Most of the mail was carried on this route, starting in 1842. In addition to the prepaid British rate, Cuba charged a two real incoming mail fee on mail from Northern Europe, equivalent to 25 U.S. cents or 1 shilling 1/2 d.

Via the U.S.A. - initially by transatlantic Cunard steamers and by American vessels along the eastern seaboard. Prepayment of mail all the way from the U.K. to Cuba was not possible until the implementation of the 1848 U.S.-U.K. postal treaty. Before that, mail could only be prepaid to the U.S.A. From there it was at the mercy of U.S. postal clerks who could detain them, demanding the payment of the ship fee to Cuba, or send them unpaid. Beginning in late-1848, nearly all the mail from N.Y. to Cuba was sent on board contract mail steamships. The contract steamship rate was 12 1/2 cents until July 1, 1851, when it was lowered to 10 cents. In addition to the prepaid British/American rate, Cuba charged a one real incoming mail fee from North America, equivalent to 12 1/2 U.S. cents or 6 1/4 d. Mail from the U.K. to Cuba on this route before July 1851 is rare.

Mail by this route from the U.K. or via the U.K. to Cuba had to be prepaid 1 shilling packet rate + 12 1/2 cents contract steamship fee, or its equivalent (until July 1851). This was roughly 1s 6 1/4 d. In 1851 this rate was negotiated down to 1s 2 1/2 d.

There was another unusual variation of the via U.S. route. From 1859 to 1867 the Cunard Line operated a branch line between N.Y. and Havana via Nassau. There is some correspondence that was sent as "closed mail" between the U.K. and Cuba through the U.S. entirely by Cunard steamers. This type of mail is very scarce.

Below is an unusual cover sent from France to Cuba via London, Liverpool and New York reflecting the 12 1/2 cent credit to the U.S. prior to July 1851.


Posted Mar 26, 17 18:26 by richard babcock (babcock)

Civil War 3

More to read


Posted Mar 26, 17 18:25 by richard babcock (babcock)

Civil War 2

Letter about war


Posted Mar 26, 17 18:24 by richard babcock (babcock)

Civil War 1

Civil War, Ozias Noble. Mustered in October 30, 1861,Union New York Volunteers 60th Regiment New York Infantry.


Posted Mar 26, 17 15:40 by Michael Schreiber (michaelschreiber)

another USS Pennsylvania cover -- similar to Ken's GP show find

I pictured this cover on the Board a few years ago.

Postmarked at Honolulu 10 days after Pearl Harbor.


Posted Mar 26, 17 14:57 by Richard Frajola (frajola)

Benjamin F. Bailar Memorial Service

Benjamin F. Bailar Memorial Service
April 21, 2017, 1 PM
First Presbyterian Church
700 North Sheridan Road
Lake Forest Illinois 60045

an obituary may be found here

Posted Mar 26, 17 14:08 by Ken Lawrence (kenlawrence)

other side


Posted Mar 26, 17 14:07 by Ken Lawrence (kenlawrence)

Best Garfield-Perry find

This triple-weight (1½-ounce) registered air mail cover from the USS Pennsylvania, flagship of Admiral Husband E. Kimmel, commander-in-chief of the United States Pacific Fleet, was posted 4 December 1941 for the last inbound Clipper flight before the Japanese attack. It transited New York City on 6 December and arrived at the USS Augusta at Newport, Rhode Island, on 8 December, so it was in transit as the fleet, including Pennsylvania, was being bombed.

The letter flew aboard the Boeing B-314 American Clipper on its final shuttle flight from Hawaii to California en route to its assigned Atlantic coast posting to serve the planned LATI-substitute route.

The American Air Mail Society article "The Last Flight Out: Seven Pan American Clippers on the Eve of Pearl Harbor" in the 1997 American Philatelic Congress Book, which doubled as the handbook and catalog for the Pacific 97 international stamp exhibition, included the "poorly understood" December 4-5 Honolulu-Los Angeles-San Francisco flight only for the record; no flown covers are shown or described. The text stated, "it is questionable whether the American Clipper carried any mail on her last flight to and from Hawaii. The schedule is listed in order to provide a complete record of the Pan American Clippers."

Newspapers announced that mail for that flight would close 3 December. If it really did, this cover is an air mail counterpart to supplementary mail carried on a surface ship (I cannot conceive of Pan Am refusing to load mail from the top Navy commander).

Battleship Pennsylvania was in dry dock but was hit amidships by one bomb during the second wave of the Japanese attack, which destroyed some of her five-inch guns.


Posted Mar 26, 17 13:41 by Andrew Reid (andrewukusa1847)


The other HAVANA items I have all went via the West Indies Packet, which was substantially more expensive at 2s 3d, such as this one from September 1853.


Posted Mar 26, 17 13:39 by Andrew Reid (andrewukusa1847)


I'm going to take advantage of the Havana covers being posted and put up this one, as I am curious about the apparent Cunard routing from Liverpool via Halifax and Boston to Havana. The cover is from February 1, 1847 sent per the February 4, 1847 sailing of the Cambria.


Posted Mar 26, 17 13:22 by Yamil Kouri (yamil kouri)

The last (earliest) Havana INDIAS

A couple of examples from Central America


Posted Mar 26, 17 13:21 by Yamil Kouri (yamil kouri)

More Havana INDIAS

A couple of examples from South America


Posted Mar 26, 17 13:20 by Yamil Kouri (yamil kouri)

The Havana INDIAS

A couple of examples from Mexico


Posted Mar 26, 17 13:15 by Yamil Kouri (yamil kouri)

Mexico - Havana Maritime Mail

My opinion is that the cover is genuine. The sender paid one shilling in cash at the British consular agency in Mexico City, and then the 2R Mexican stamp was affixed and canceled in the capital to satisfy the internal postage requirement. The stamp was canceled by the Mexico City circular grid with the typical seven parallel bars (different than the Veracruz circular grid, which had eight parallel bars). In Veracruz it did not receive the usual PAID AT VERACRUZ crown circle (but technically, it was paid at Mexico City, not at Veracruz) and was put on board the British packet to Cuba.

In Havana it received the incoming marking INDIAS to indicate its origin in the Continental Americas, which generally excluded the U.S. and Canada, and was charged three silver reales postage due. This was the single-weight incoming fee for letters from Mexico, and countries in Central and South America. The scarce INDIAS was used simultaneously with the more common YNDIAS from about 1810 until at least the late 1860s. Most examples of the INDIAS are known on mail from Mexico to Cuba.

Posted Mar 26, 17 12:21 by Gregory Shoults (coilcollector)

Garfield Perry

As usual the show went very well. I was very pleased with the turn out of exhibits, we had 200 frames for the first time in a long time. Not an easy task today. The United States Stamp Society had their annual meeting. This is when they give out their 3 highest society awards. Mark Schwartz won the Hugh Southgate award for the best 19th century award, Matt Liebson win the Walter Hopkinson award for the best 20th century exhibit, and I was fortunate to win the Wallace Cleland award for the best single frame. The exhibit was on the coil waste issues of the 3rd Bureau which was one of many topics Wallace Cleland studied for many years and taught numerous classes on the subject. Wallace wrote and published over 100 articles in his life time. What was very special about winning the single frame award named in his honor was there are numerous pieces which came from Wallace's estate when it was sold a few years ago. It is very satisfying to keep his interest moving forward by exhibiting his material.

Posted Mar 26, 17 12:02 by Andrew Reid (andrewukusa1847)

Outgoing US Packets - 1848

In reply to Bernard's observations - in the case of each cover they entered the mails in Liverpool on March 20, 1848. The cover with the 1/- embossed to Cloverport, Kentucky actually was marked in London on the 21st and made it back to Liverpool the same day. The stampless one appears to be the same - and both its "Paid" date stamp and the Liverpool CDS on the reverse of the Cloverport cover have the same time code. It would be odd for Liverpool to botch an entire group, so maybe there was some sort of other event that impacted these - train exploded or something like that...

In reassembling things, for Cunard sailings it is quite possible to find a range of circumstances that incorporate the range of late fees along with the covers that were there and waiting well before the sailing. I tend to note that if covers missed sailings they tended to miss the sailings of the US Packets rather than missing the Cunard sailings, which when I have time I will try to see if there is a pattern or not.

Posted Mar 26, 17 8:22 by Jim Baird (bairdo)


I would live in Taos in a NY minute were I able to have a morning coffee and conversation with Richard from time to time.

Posted Mar 25, 17 15:01 by Bernard Biales (bernard b)

Handling of outgoing US packet covers from Uk

I kind of doubt that they intentionally delayed the cover -- they were still getting paid -- I assume these are actually reprisal rate covers and somewhat (only somewhat) incidentally Cunard rate covers forwarded as Cunarders. If they were really mean, they could have saved them for the next American Packet, but it is true, in that case, that the customer would have seen a huge delay and paid more, but the payment to the US system would also have been more. I believe in the early treaty period covers (I don't recall if this was in general or the California covers sent by way of the Caribbean) that covers were sent by GB packet unless otherwise Specified. Soon this was abandoned for celerity.

What time did the American packet leave?

Added note -- If both are in effect LP origins on the 21st, that may be a stretch to get put on a 21 sailing from LP . The two dates on the German cover may or may not indicate some confusion -- depends on time of arrival and domestic mail departure.

Posted Mar 25, 17 12:53 by Marc Gonzales (marcegnzls)

Mexico to Cuba - Maritime Mail

Here is the back of the wrapper.


Posted Mar 25, 17 12:51 by Marc Gonzales (marcegnzls)

Mexico - Havana Maritime mail

I am attempting to authenticate the attached cover but have some concerns. It appears to be sent from Mexico City, inland rate paid by 2 reales stamp, carried under Consulate pouch "Consulado Britannico Mexico" on reverse, to Vera Cruz. A red ms 1/ charged for ship rate. Placed on RMSP ship "Thames" Aug. 1,1862 in VC arriving Havana Aug. 5. It appears in Havana the Indias marking applied along with "3" hs to be charged to addressee. What concerns me is the stamp applied in Mexico City is "on top" of the 1/ ms marking which it is my understanding would be applied in Vera Cruz, so is this stamp fraudulently added? Also the INDIAS marking which should have been applied in Cuba is spelled with an I instead of the typical YNDIAS. Were both spellings used in Cuba? Any help in understanding these aspects is greatly appreciated. Marc


Posted Mar 25, 17 12:38 by Andrew Reid (andrewukusa1847)

Feather River (Inn)

... 7,000 always seems more impressive when one started at 3,500. However, you would not have to twist my arm much to get me to live in Taos.

I have stayed at the Feather River Inn on a couple of occasions for board retreats and things like that when it really was not open. Great location, just needs a lot of investment.

Posted Mar 25, 17 12:20 by Richard Frajola (frajola)

Feather River

Thanks Andrew! One of these days, if they ever finish restoration of the Feather River Inn, I would like to spend some time there. Had to laugh at your 7,000' elevation comment ... Fran and I are about 7,800' where we live in Taos.

Posted Mar 25, 17 12:00 by Andrew Reid (andrewukusa1847)

Feather River

This one strictly for our host. This photo was taken in 1993 near the summit of Mount Hough in Plumas County (Spanish for feather, of course) looking back toward the American Valley and Quincy, CA. Mount Hough is a little over 7,000 feet in elevation and I had climbed up the USFS road that goes to Five Corners and starts out by crossing the Union Pacific Feather River mainline just a little ways past Spanish Creek, which connects at the Keddie Wye to form the East Branch of the North Fork of the Feather. I had seen this bear walking down a logging road so I thought that it would cross the meadow that would be to my left and make a good photo. Instead, it came out of the vegetation in front of me and I had to yell at it or it would have been sitting in my lap. I was waiting for my ACL surgery so I could ride my bike, but definitely was not running anywhere, period. 25 years later in my career, I miss being able to just jump on my mountain bike after work and ride up to spots like this and see no one.


Posted Mar 25, 17 6:59 by Matthew Liebson (liebson)

March Party

We are as usual having a good time at the March Party.  Grand to Jim Allen for 'The First United 12c Stamp Series of 1851-1861'; Reserve Grand to Jerry Miller for "The Evolution of the Post Offices in German New Guinea 1888-1914".  Single frame grand to Greg Shoults for "Washington & Frankln Rotary Press Coil Waste 1919-1922."

Mark Schwartz had a large gold and the Southgate Trophy from the USSS for "The New York Postmaster Provisional, and a large vermeil for Boston's "Paid in Grid" Cancels on the U.S. Imperforate Issues of 1847-1856.  Ken Lawrence took gold with "Wake Island in World War II."  I had my first large gold with "Development of the United States Postal Savings System 1911-1970".  Apologies if I missed other board members; I'm a little short on sleep the last few days. :)

Posted Mar 24, 17 23:21 by Richard Taschenberg (coverzz)

Feather River

Thanks for the post and the link to the WP video.
For you railfans, don't miss the Western Pacific Museum at Portola.
They have a Rent a Locomotive program.
My wife and I drove an F7 there in 2012. It was a blast!

Posted Mar 24, 17 22:36 by John Shepherd (tas philatelist)


It is indeed Sanabria at the right.

This photograph is quite famous, at least as far as philatelic photographs go. Earhart was an airmails collector and exhibitor and Sanabria the leading airmails dealer, so it all makes sense.

The NPM captioned the photograph thus:

"Earhart exhibited her airmail flight covers at the 1936 TIPEX stamp exhibition. Earhart with husband George Putnam (center) and airmail specialist Nicolas Sanabria (right)".

Posted Mar 24, 17 19:38 by Andrew Reid (andrewukusa1847)

... and Exhibit B

... another cover from Liverpool that was endorsed to go via the same March 21, 1848 sailing of Washington, sent on the same day, that missed it as well. Went back to Liverpool and took Cunard's "Hibernia" on March 25, 1848.

I wouldn't mind seeing a third example.


Posted Mar 24, 17 19:33 by Andrew Reid (andrewukusa1847)

My S-R (and why)

I was thrilled to see this stampless cover in S-R's sale. It is possible that the usage only meant something to me, but as I'm known for looking for patterns, I'll explain why it was so exciting. On the surface, it is a cover sent from Saxe-Meiningen via Baring Brothers in Liverpool to an addressee in New York. It was endorsed to go via the 4th sailing of Ocean Line's "Washington" via Southampton on March 21, 1848, which would have made it a Discriminatory Rate usage, however it was "Too Late" for that sailing, and instead was sent via Cunard's "Hibernia" on March 25, 1848. Interesting, but why does that matter?

Well, what if there was a pattern of mails intended to travel by US Steamer that just so happened to miss those sailings, depriving the US lines of revenue and giving it to Cunard? What are the odds? Now I am starting to wonder.

Exhibit A:


Posted Mar 24, 17 16:25 by Rob Faux (robfaux)


Thanks Roger.  Here is a snippet from what I read from Memoir of Sir F.C.Daniel, Knt. M.D., Inventor of the Life Preserver


Posted Mar 24, 17 15:06 by Roger Heath (decoppet)


Rob - Google "Wapping", a really interesting story. East Docklands of London, UK.

In the old days some of the life preservers were quite bulky but had attachments allowing them to be used similar to a bosun's chair. Once a line was strung from the wrecked vessel to shore, if each person had a "life preserver" they could be taken off efficiently. If no life preservers, another arrangement had to be concocted taking much more time to save the lives while the vessel was beaten against the rocks. So I guess shipwreck bathing was not a preplanned event, but your life might be saved if you had a preserver.

Posted Mar 24, 17 13:02 by Rob Faux (robfaux)

Bureau de Passe

That makes sense.  So, this was a marking at the postal office at the train station?
Appreciate the help.

Posted Mar 24, 17 12:34 by Richard Frajola (frajola)

Article on the Fake Ad Covers

A quick hit article on the "MS Maryland" faked covers, mostly advertising covers, is here.

Posted Mar 24, 17 12:29 by Steve Walske (steve w)

French Marking Question

Rob, That is a "bureau de passe" railroad bureau marking. Number 99 was assigned to Angers (same number as in its large numbers cancel).

Posted Mar 24, 17 12:23 by Ken Stach (kenstach)

Research Help Needed

I am trying to find the military record for a man named "J. Frazer Boughter" who was apparently a surgeon in the army in the 1860s. Specifically, I am trying to determine when he might have been stationed in the fledgling Dakota Territory. Can anyone instruct me where I might best conduct such a search? Thanks in advance.

Posted Mar 24, 17 12:15 by Rob Faux (robfaux)

S-R catch

Last one of my post block.  This is the target I landed in the latest S-R auction.  Looking forward to writing it up.

Sad I couldn't hang in for the mail item sent via France due to the 7 weeks war.  I hope whoever got it will enjoying it.


Posted Mar 24, 17 12:02 by Rob Faux (robfaux)

French Marking Question

If you look at this scan, you'll see that there must have been another page that had an order on it that was torn from the cover.  The form is pre-printed so you can guess that the person got a catalogue and sent the order in.

The American Agriculturist of 1874 indicates that they received a catalogue from J Monnier and Co and there is a reference in an ad to sell seeds in the Sacramento Daily Union of March 31, 1874 that seeds from Monnier of France were a source for W.R. Strong.

Feather River - enjoyed seeing that Richard.  Glad you shared that.
Daniel's Life Preserver - Tim, I can see the entertainment value.  One should always have a life preserver when bathing.  I am almost afraid to ask about "wapping."


Posted Mar 24, 17 11:55 by Rob Faux (robfaux)

French Marking Question

ON the reverse of the cover is this receiver marking with a "99" or "66" in the date stamp.

I am curious if anyone can tell me what this marking references?
It also looks to me like some sort of seal with a tag used to be on this item. I can speculate, but would rather learn if someone has more knowledge on the subject.

Background I have:
J Monnier & Co was a seeds supplier (and probably plant supplier).  The inside of the wrapper shows a form to order by species designation (Designation des Especes) with expected kg or hg weights.  I will show that next.

As far as La Pyramide goes, there is an area that is still referred to as La Pyramide in Trelaze.  After a short search, I can find a pharmacy that touts the name, but not much on history of the area.


Posted Mar 24, 17 11:50 by Rob Faux (robfaux)

French Marking Question

Below is a cover sent from La Roche Sur Yon to Trelaze (SE of Angers in Maine et Loire).  The next post will show the backstamp I am curious about.


Posted Mar 24, 17 10:03 by Andrew Reid (andrewukusa1847)

Feather River

Thanks for posting that Richard. I used to live and work in Plumas County about 25 years ago and drove the Feather River Canyon frequently. One of my favorite areas.

Posted Mar 24, 17 9:06 by joe kirker (centuryc3)


Thanks, Farley

I wasn't aware of the NPM reference. Working on an article about the Sanabria backstamped C3's, primarily following the recent Siegel Sale of the Don Price airmails.

Posted Mar 24, 17 6:53 by Richard Frajola (frajola)

Feather River Store & Pack Mule Express

Another interesting cover added to inventory here (described in detail here) and shown below provided a fun couple days of research. A friend emailed me a scan and asked about the endorsement at left. With the help of some good search luck, I was able to identify it and then develop the story.

For those railroad fans, the Feather River Route was a famous line developed by the Western Pacific railroad. A 1949 documentary film about the route is on youtube here, (I had a small licence plate with the WP Feather River Logo attached to the facia of my boyhood train layout a few years ago).

This is why I love postal history - always something new to learn.


Posted Mar 24, 17 3:31 by Farley Katz (navalon)

Nicolas Sanabria

The NPM tags Sanabria in your photo. See here, lower right

Posted Mar 23, 17 23:14 by joe kirker (centuryc3)


Have that picture and agree, but trying to be more certain. He (Sanabria) did associate with Putnam but mainly for very different reasons. Actually rather very unusual on how they came in contact (along with Amelia).

Posted Mar 23, 17 22:49 by Farley Katz (navalon)

Nicholas Sanabria

Looks like him. See his photo here

Posted Mar 23, 17 22:18 by joe kirker (centuryc3)

posting back after long hiatus and ongoing Agent Orange issues. Hope to validate the gentleman at the right in this 1936 Tipex photo showing Amelia Earhart and George Putnam. I believe it is Nicholas Sanabria.


Posted Mar 23, 17 17:05 by Tim O'Connor (drtimo)

early advertising cover

closeup of handstamp on back Tim


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